Likening Sonic’s last minute inclusion Smash Bros to Sonic 06’ seems like a grand insult.

I mean, how could you possibly see those are near the same excuse?

Sonic 06’ was a disastrous mess that got pushed out too early.

Brawl was a largely complete game already by the time they considered adding Sonic.

You saying that his last minute inclusion is like Sonic 06’ is effectively calling the developers lazy, and/or the producers shortsighted—as those were both the core issues of Sonic 06’. Neither of which apply to Brawl at all.

There would be no way they could possibly rewrite the whole story to include Sonic earlier on—not without delaying the game even more, and losing obscene amounts of money in the process. Do you have any idea how absurdly expensive a crew of developers costs a daily basis? I don’t know about you, but I’m grateful that Sonic actually got a full FMV dedicated to him—and that he was in story mode at all.

I mean, it was either they did exactly what they did, or he wasn’t in the game’s story at all—or possibly the entire game.

Would it be cool that he had more screen time? Hell yeah. But your complaining about it smacks of entitlement. I’m willing to bet that many Nintendo employees spend long nights at the office to get Sonic in with minimal delays. And it’s a shame that you don’t seem to appreciate that.

But yes, Sonic’s advance warning does seem like he’ll have more precedence in the game now (though any kind of story mode is up the air)

^I agree with all of what Ambris said. We should be glad Sonic was in the game at all. We should already be proud of the fact that the demand for Sonic was so huge that it delayed the game. You know fan demand was extreme if Nintendo decided they could not release the game if they did not include Sonic in there. Maybe there’s quite a few signs in Brawl that Sonic was indeed rushed in the game. Such as his role in the Story mode, and even some parts the way he fights.

But that never mattered to me in the slightest. Sonic was in Super Smash Bros. That alone is what made the game a Day One purchase. There’s at least some sign of effort in including Sonic. They had a few pretty good Sonic tracks in there, even a remix of Angel Island Zone. And although Sonic’s not really one of the best fighters of the game. He’s also not the worst, despite obviously pretty much most of the characters being more planned more then Sonic was (Ex: Ganondorf)

I also personally think that Sonic being included in Brawl was what kinda ended the dark age of Sonic. Sure there were still not that good Sonic games that came after Brawl (Sonic and the Black Knight & Sonic Unleashed) but I felt like things have really turned around for Sonic at that time after Sonic 06 nearly could have destroyed the franchise altogether. Which is part of the reason why it feels like an insult to compare Sonic’s inclusion in Brawl to Sonic 06. Sonic 06 was terrible to it’s very core. It wasn’t just the fact it was rushed that made it terrible, stuff that should be done early on like the writing was terrible even for Sonic game standards (The Adventure series had their fair share of plot holes too, but not nearly to the level of Sonic 06). Sonic 06 is also the big reason the Sonic franchise has lost it’s credibility that it once had and will probably never truly gain again. But that’s why I feel Sonic’s inclusion in Brawl despite it being last minute was the start of a bit of a turnaround. Sonic now being included among many famous series like Mario, Legend of Zelda, etc. made him feel worthy again.

The fact he’s returning in Smash 4 as an official Smash Veteran just makes me smile everytime I think about it. Sonic’s getting at least equal treatment to alot of the Smash Bros. characters despite not being Nintendo. Maybe it wasn’t so equal in Brawl but there were legitimate reasons why they couldn’t do too much. As 60% of the development time was already mostly on the SSE and the other 40% was on the characters, gameplay, online modes, etc. They probably nearly had enough of working on the SSE by the time Sonic was included. Sonic will be a much better fighter in Smash 4, you can count on that.And while a story mode with lots of cutscenes like SSE isn’t looking likely, I’m sure we’ll see plenty of Sonic content. As the game focuses mostly on what’s the more important stuff about Smash Bros.: Characters, Series representation and Gameplay.