its-homerj-deactivated20140626 asked: I don't see why you really hate the episode Rainbow Falls, because I actually thought it was a decent episode, so I'm one of the few people who would actually be willing to defend it. I'll acknowledge that it did have a few glaring plot holes, the Wonderbolts (except for Soarin) are complete jerks, and I do feel that Snowdrop's name change was rather lame. Yet overall, I liked world building involved, Rainbow and Twilight's characterization, and the subtle nods to Derpy and her characterization.
Yeah, I don’t exactly think Rainbow Falls is close to being the worst of the series for introducing a new place. Rainbow and Twilight were kinda done well in some respects. But still stuff like Spitfire & Fleetfoot trying to get Rainbow to replace Soarin on their team just so they could have a better chance just kinda ruined that.
And Snowflake supposed name change to Bulk Biceps hardly counts as a problem of the episode. But there is one thing about him in Rainbow Falls that adds another problem. Now I know this series isn’t safe from plot inconsistencies, but I doubt there’s one as obvious as the fact that Bulk Biceps was invited to the Wonderbolt Academy. A place that at the beginning of the episode was said to be invitation only, how could Bulk Biceps have ended up there if he was that bad at flying?
There’s also Fluttershy. Why is she not nervous at all about participating in a sporting event? Especially given her Stage Fright issues we see in Filli Vanilli? The Equestria Games are the pony olympics, there’s going to be a huge crowd watching Fluttershy for the relay.
Also there was a much better way for Rainbow to choose the Ponyville team without resorting to making 2/3rds of the Cloudsdale team/Wonderbolts as jerks. Rainbow could of chosen Ponyville because it represents who she is now. If she went with the Cloudsdale team, she’d be representing something she no longer is anymore. And the awkward feeling about her running as a different place from where she actally lives in front of her friends. Her friends would still support her either way, but regardless Rainbow has changed alot in her days in Ponyville and she should represent what she is now as opposed to who she was. Maybe Rainbow still holds a special part of her heart for Cloudsdale, as seen in Return of Harmony. But I would think it’d make more sense anyway that Rainbow would rather compete with Spitfire to see how she stacks up against her rather then just be a part of the team where she can’t compare speeds other then in practice. I feel it’d be more in-character for Rainbow to want to go against Spitfire for a great race.
It doesn’t help that this episode happens to be Rainbow’s key episode. Meaning we can’t really just ignore this episode happened because otherwise we wouldn’t know how Rainbow got her key before the Finale.
Those are the main reasons I think Rainbow Falls is probably the worst episode of Season 4 so far. It’s not completely terrible, as there were some things that were done well. But regardless it’s the lowest Season 4 has gone to and hopefully is the closest to the bottom it ever gets. The Season’s done a pretty good job of that so far. Having only 1 out of 20 being a bad episode is great in comparison with previous seasons though. Other then Rainbow Falls, every other episode has had something I’ve enjoyed. I hope Corey Powell redeems herself in her co-written episode with Meghan, I don’t know what happened for the writer of Sleepless in Ponyville (Largely considered one of, if not the best episode of Season 3) could go as low as Rainbow Falls was. But it’s left me a bit unsure. Kinda hoping it’s just Cindy Morrow syndrome where she can be pretty inconsistent between seasons where Cindy made two awesome episodes in Season 2 (Sisterhooves Social & Hurricane Fluttershy) to two average or even subpar episodes in Season 3 (One Bad Apple & Apple Family Reunion)
thegothmod asked: I really don't like this whole rainbow thing to be honest... Its just another thing that Meghan is pulling off that break all the previous canon just like most of season 3 final and all the new things in season 4...
Like I told Nova. We know absolutely nothing about Rainbow Power or Rainbow Kingdom other then previews of the Rainbow Power forms. So until then we can’t really know for sure what this means. All we have is speculations. Like here’s a few of mine that I think some others are thinking as well.
-Rainbow Power is a sort of Super Form (Think Super Saiyan from DBZ) that the Mane 6 need to take care of some powerful stuff in the future. Even if the designs look silly and weird, at least the Mane 6 would still be badasses using it. It will be only used when necessary.
-Ever since Twilight became a Princess, we’ve been asking just what will she rule over or if she’ll even have a castle to herself. That’s what the Rainbow Kingdom might be about. Giving her exactly that, I believe Ponyville will still be part of the kingdom too. The castle in the everfree that was once Celestia & Luna’s will be converted to Twilight’s new Castle. Which makes it not only a good spot close to Ponyville. But the place is also a iconic, as it’s the same exact place that the Mane 6 defeated Nightmare Moon.
Also to be honest, I’ve enjoyed pretty much most things that have broken the Status Quo. Lesson Zero, Magical Mystery Cure, etc. I even like Canterlot Wedding alot, and Crystal Empire a good amount although we has absolutely no warning about Twilight having a brother, a 3rd Alicorn, and a kingdom that just pops out of nowhere after being gone for 1000 years. The only things I’ve been kinda conflicted about is how Keep Calm and Flutter On handled Discord’s “reformation” and also somewhat Daring Do being a real pony. But despite that I find Daring Don’t a good episode, and while my thoughts on Keep Calm and Flutter On change depending on my mood I at least think it’s one of the funnier episodes of Season 3. I’ll remain cautiously optimistic though for Rainbow Power. I’ll hope it turns out better then some are thinking it will, but I can understand how this could go wrong.
Heh, i’m not even going to go further in this because it won’t end. I stand by my points.
Then so will I. Good day.
thegothmod asked: I really don't like this whole rainbow thing to be honest... Its just another thing that Meghan is pulling off that break all the previous canon just like most of season 3 final and all the new things in season 4...
Like I told Nova. We know absolutely nothing about Rainbow Power or Rainbow Kingdom other then previews of the Rainbow Power forms. So until then we can’t really know for sure what this means. All we have is speculations. Like here’s a few of mine that I think some others are thinking as well.
-Rainbow Power is a sort of Super Form (Think Super Saiyan from DBZ) that the Mane 6 need to take care of some powerful stuff in the future. Even if the designs look silly and weird, at least the Mane 6 would still be badasses using it. It will be only used when necessary.
-Ever since Twilight became a Princess, we’ve been asking just what will she rule over or if she’ll even have a castle to herself. That’s what the Rainbow Kingdom might be about. Giving her exactly that, I believe Ponyville will still be part of the kingdom too. The castle in the everfree that was once Celestia & Luna’s will be converted to Twilight’s new Castle. Which makes it not only a good spot close to Ponyville. But the place is also a iconic, as it’s the same exact place that the Mane 6 defeated Nightmare Moon.
Also to be honest, I’ve enjoyed pretty much most things that have broken the Status Quo. Lesson Zero, Magical Mystery Cure, etc. I even like Canterlot Wedding alot, and Crystal Empire a good amount although we has absolutely no warning about Twilight having a brother, a 3rd Alicorn, and a kingdom that just pops out of nowhere after being gone for 1000 years. The only things I’ve been kinda conflicted about is how Keep Calm and Flutter On handled Discord’s “reformation” and also somewhat Daring Do being a real pony. But despite that I find Daring Don’t a good episode, and while my thoughts on Keep Calm and Flutter On change depending on my mood I at least think it’s one of the funnier episodes of Season 3. I’ll remain cautiously optimistic though for Rainbow Power. I’ll hope it turns out better then some are thinking it will, but I can understand how this could go wrong.
There is a big difference between Twilight’s personal goal and what Celestia intended her to go through..
And i do know Lauren did intended it to be but you forgot a thing even though she is Celestia’s student, she did herself told Trixie that she was nowhere close as a strong unicorn by saying that was Trixie managed to do was only for highest unicorn which she wasn’t and isn’t.
And i don’t care the slightest about what Celestia thought when she got her as her student and leading a little troop of ponies through battles as hero have strictly nothing to do with leading a nation.
As for my example? Twilight was a trainee from a school about magic and her main goal was learning magic but Celestia apparently in the span of 1 day she said fuck this you go have friends when Twilight had no interest in it and was clearly learning something called magic. Yes the show seems to make magic and friendship be the same thing but you don’t like you pointed out lift bears with friendship or change a mice to a horse with friendship. Twilight was learning an actual science and all that Celestia asked her when the show started to learn is friendship when it wasn’t even Twilight’s goal to begin with.
Sure ok Celestia’s goal is to make a princess out of Twilight… By learning friendship… But it means nothing when the way she does it something unrelated completely from Twilight’s main goal and even when some time Twilight wasn’t writing anything to Celestia about what she learned, she was always learning at least one thing in the show and she doesn’t anymore not even once since the new season. Twilight’s character was all about learning and no one just stop learning. She’s a student that didn’t even graduated Celestia’s Magic school, who didn’t even became a certified mage or even remotely as good as she said a high level unicorn is, who know nothing about leading a nation that suddenly become a Princess, which is from a trainee to a president in 10 second.
She has earned nothing. She wasn’t given something that was never wanted in the first place. Yes Lauren intend it to happen but this her was done poorly.
If you think i’m wrong fine. But Meghan and the staff after Lauren left completely broke the show and its story and even many of the mechanic already established of even those they established themselves like the Dark magic and oh god that potion from Zecora is bullshit, stupid plot device potion that make no sense.
That’s another thing. Twilight’s magic doesn’t feel anymore as if its magic but more as a stupid plot device which by itself broke the whole magic concept of the show.
I can go on and on.
You make it sound like Twilight was just another student in that Magic School. She wasn’t, from the very moment after her entrance exam. Celestia chose her to be her personal protege, not just another student at the school. From that point on, Celestia’s Tutelage was basically Twi’s Middle School, High School, and her friendship studies during the show are her college years and her Princesshood is her graduation from that. Nitpicking like this will make you realize the show’s world was broken from the very beginning. Like it’s pretty much arguable that Twilight suddenly realizing how good it is to have friends in a single night when she hasn’t before they faced against Nightmare Moon was unrealistic, and that was written by Lauren Faust herself.
Also what does it matter if being a Princess was never made clear of being Twilight’s goal eventually (Neither was being just a Wizard/Mage, we can’t be 100% sure the comics are absolutely canon to the show) She seems alright with it. The fact she said “Does this mean I’m not your student anymore?” means she took this as a sort of graduation. She expresses some fears about it in the first few minutes of Equestria Girls and the Season 4 opener. But overall, I don’t think Celestia’s trust in Twilight is a misjudgement. Twilight will grow to be a good leader for Equestria. Even if she starts doubting herself again in the present time, her friends will always be there to back her up.
I find the potion in the Season 4 Opener easier to swallow then Twilight having Shining Armor as a brother despite never mentioning him before, or a kingdom that appears out of nowhere. And as I said I still liked Canterlot Wedding (I even liked Shining Armor himself) & Crystal Empire despite those glaring plotholes.
If you feel any possible plot contrivances from Season 3 & 4 really break the show fine. But please remember this was far from the first time this has happened. And I believe the writers for the most part has at least tried to make most of these things fit in well with the show. And don’t be surprised when more comes around. For me, they haven’t crossed the line yet (Examples of what would be crossing the line for me: Making the rest of the Mane 6 Alicorns, making Flash Sentry a recurring character as Twilight’s coltfriend, and/or introducing a 7th Element of Harmony). As everything else has been tolerable so far (Shining and Cadence? Canterlot Wedding was awesome and they were nice characters. Crystal Empire out of nowhere? Some particular scenes in Part 2 I REALLY REALLY loved like the Fear Door Scene. Alicorn Twilight? It was 100x more justified then both the previous examples and made sense to me when I thought about it even when it was just a rumor. The only exception maybe Equestria Girls, but since it’s kinda mostly separate from the show I could care less about what it means just as long as Flash Sentry’s role in the movie stays far, far, far away from the actual show.)
We might just have to agree to disagree on some of this stuff since I doubt either of us will change our stance.
thegothmod asked: I really don't like this whole rainbow thing to be honest... Its just another thing that Meghan is pulling off that break all the previous canon just like most of season 3 final and all the new things in season 4...
Like I told Nova. We know absolutely nothing about Rainbow Power or Rainbow Kingdom other then previews of the Rainbow Power forms. So until then we can’t really know for sure what this means. All we have is speculations. Like here’s a few of mine that I think some others are thinking as well.
-Rainbow Power is a sort of Super Form (Think Super Saiyan from DBZ) that the Mane 6 need to take care of some powerful stuff in the future. Even if the designs look silly and weird, at least the Mane 6 would still be badasses using it. It will be only used when necessary.
-Ever since Twilight became a Princess, we’ve been asking just what will she rule over or if she’ll even have a castle to herself. That’s what the Rainbow Kingdom might be about. Giving her exactly that, I believe Ponyville will still be part of the kingdom too. The castle in the everfree that was once Celestia & Luna’s will be converted to Twilight’s new Castle. Which makes it not only a good spot close to Ponyville. But the place is also a iconic, as it’s the same exact place that the Mane 6 defeated Nightmare Moon.
Also to be honest, I’ve enjoyed pretty much most things that have broken the Status Quo. Lesson Zero, Magical Mystery Cure, etc. I even like Canterlot Wedding alot, and Crystal Empire a good amount although we has absolutely no warning about Twilight having a brother, a 3rd Alicorn, and a kingdom that just pops out of nowhere after being gone for 1000 years. The only things I’ve been kinda conflicted about is how Keep Calm and Flutter On handled Discord’s “reformation” and also somewhat Daring Do being a real pony. But despite that I find Daring Don’t a good episode, and while my thoughts on Keep Calm and Flutter On change depending on my mood I at least think it’s one of the funnier episodes of Season 3. I’ll remain cautiously optimistic though for Rainbow Power. I’ll hope it turns out better then some are thinking it will, but I can understand how this could go wrong.
Most of what you said wasn’t related to what i said at all.
My issue here isn’t if the episode are good or not its that since mid season 3, they broke every established canon from the two first season, breaking the whole story and even making the Dark magic completely broken along with the actually level Twilight is in magic. Celestia saying that she finished her study when like 6 episode before, she clearly stated that she was no where near close to the end of her study and her or even a mage.
Its like taking a trainee that work at the white house who know nothing about anything wet and hey you’re now president!!
Not only that but even the element of harmony are also broken. I already reviewed them and until season 4 premiere, everything was making sense but now not at all and all they do is discard it for another something that will obviously be the rainbow power and some other bullshit.
Daring Don’t is also broken. Not really Daring Do being an actual character which is already dum, but that whole thing about the sun and that artifact.
Twilight not learning a single thing since the premiere along with her doing things kinda out of character especially that time in Rainbow Falls with her telling RD that deciding to not decide isn’t a decision when she is extremely likely to do that or even just choose the bad decision like in A bird in the hoof or lesson zero.
Twilight’s whole character resolved about learning things and she don’t anymore while everypony else does. Sorry but that doesn’t work. Everyone always learn and Twilight’s friend where friend together before she even came in the scene and that she was totally asocial. And no they are telling me she doesn’t get to learn anything anymore but everyone else does? Bullshit.
And all those new spells that come out of nowhere when before they at least explained them or showed Twilight learning them but nope and now they pull out some stupid things like Flutterbat with an explanation as of why she transformed that make no freaking sense.
Twilight is broken and the story is broken. So those whole rainbom key and kingdom, i don’t buy it. Twilight is nowhere near close of being able to rule a land and she never ever even showed any interest of being a princess. It was forced onto her when her goal was clearly either being a mage or a librarian, heck even in the damn comic its actually said by herself.
There is hundreds of ways they could have made that work but they had to freaking break everything and take the path where it makes the less sense possible.
I’m sorry to say it but Twilight’s isn’t Alicorn material. She isn’t Princess Material either.
This was my point.
First of all, your president example isn’t the same as Twilight’s situation. Promoting Twilight to a Princess isn’t the same as just taking some intern or random person who works at the White House and suddenly making him or her president. Twilight’s a national hero along with her friends, plus ever since her entrance exam she’s been Celestia’s student. What else would be the reason Celestia has trained her all this time for? And being a Princess also requires some really wizard-like skill of magic in the first place. We’ve seen Celestia, Luna, and Cadence do wonderful feats of Magic. Twilight herself has done amazing things prior to being ascended and that may be because of Celestia’s tutoring. Twilight’s also shown to be a good leader, she’s made mistakes such as Lesson Zero but that’s just grounds for character growth. Episodes like Games Ponies Play, the Season 4 Opener, and Twilight Time are proof she’s learned to keep herself calm under pressure.
I don’t think the Daring Don’t thing is a big deal. Since well like Indiana Jones, Daring Do always wins. While I say there was a bit of a charm about Daring being a fictional character in an already fictional Universe. There was nothing that explicitly said that Daring and her exploits were never real. Daring Do’s exploits being real is about as universe breaking as Pinkie’s Pinkie Sense, Fluttershy’s Stare, or I don’t know… a world of technicolor magic talking ponies? :P
On stuff like Flutterbat and while you didn’t mention it, the Breezy spell. Twilight back in Season 1 lifted a giant astro bear, lulled it to sleep, and levitated it back to it’s cave all after another. She also transformed Mice into horse-like creatures and an Apple into a Carriage. Tell me how it’s bullshit that she’s able to do the stuff she does now that seems impossible when it’s quite obvious she’s grown even stronger in Magic since Season 1.
Rainbow Falls is probably the one episode of Season 4, I thought that was kinda really bad. I won’t defend that episode.
Also when was it said that Twilight wouldn’t learn anymore? Twilight asked Celestia if she wasn’t her student anymore. Celestia said “Not in the same way as before”. Meaning Twilight still has something to learn, just not exactly how it was in previous seasons. (Heck Pinkie and AJ were the only ones to send a letter through out all of Season 3. So the Friendship Lessons kinda became null and void by Season 4 started. The diary we got in Castle-Mania is a more natural way of doing this)
Tell me this: Why would Celestia have put Twilight under her wing, if all she were to be was simple librarian? Or even just as a magic wizard detached from friends like Starswirl was? There had to have been a reason other then just “Twilight must free my sister, defeat nasty villains for me, and then grow old in a library someday and die”
Also one last thing: Twilight’s future to be a Princess was intended from the beginning. Perhaps not in the same way, but Lauren Faust stated in a video interview that Twilight’s destiny in her vision for FiM was to succeed Celestia by the end of the series. Now tell me how that would be achievable without being made an Alicorn and/or a Princess as easily?
I’ll never agree that Twilight has not earned her status, she’s worked plenty hard for this. And has saved Equestria many times while Celestia and Luna have not in recent times. (Ironically we’ve seen Cadence save Equestria more times then Celestia and Luna did directly other then just flashbacks. Celestia tried to save the day in Canterlot Wedding but that sure didn’t work.) A Princess’s role in Equestria also serves as a last line of defense, for if they’re defeated Equestria is Doomed. And Twilight’s toughed out many threats to Equestria, and has learned alot in her time in Ponyville. Having Twilight as a Princess, her friends being a sort of unofficial Knights of the Round Table as well. I feel currently is one of the best ways they could have taken Twilight’s character.
thegothmod asked: I really don't like this whole rainbow thing to be honest... Its just another thing that Meghan is pulling off that break all the previous canon just like most of season 3 final and all the new things in season 4...
Like I told Nova. We know absolutely nothing about Rainbow Power or Rainbow Kingdom other then previews of the Rainbow Power forms. So until then we can’t really know for sure what this means. All we have is speculations. Like here’s a few of mine that I think some others are thinking as well.
-Rainbow Power is a sort of Super Form (Think Super Saiyan from DBZ) that the Mane 6 need to take care of some powerful stuff in the future. Even if the designs look silly and weird, at least the Mane 6 would still be badasses using it. It will be only used when necessary.
-Ever since Twilight became a Princess, we’ve been asking just what will she rule over or if she’ll even have a castle to herself. That’s what the Rainbow Kingdom might be about. Giving her exactly that, I believe Ponyville will still be part of the kingdom too. The castle in the everfree that was once Celestia & Luna’s will be converted to Twilight’s new Castle. Which makes it not only a good spot close to Ponyville. But the place is also a iconic, as it’s the same exact place that the Mane 6 defeated Nightmare Moon.
Also to be honest, I’ve enjoyed pretty much most things that have broken the Status Quo. Lesson Zero, Magical Mystery Cure, etc. I even like Canterlot Wedding alot, and Crystal Empire a good amount although we has absolutely no warning about Twilight having a brother, a 3rd Alicorn, and a kingdom that just pops out of nowhere after being gone for 1000 years. The only things I’ve been kinda conflicted about is how Keep Calm and Flutter On handled Discord’s “reformation” and also somewhat Daring Do being a real pony. But despite that I find Daring Don’t a good episode, and while my thoughts on Keep Calm and Flutter On change depending on my mood I at least think it’s one of the funnier episodes of Season 3. I’ll remain cautiously optimistic though for Rainbow Power. I’ll hope it turns out better then some are thinking it will, but I can understand how this could go wrong.
I had a flash of insight just now. The idea appeared before me in my dreams. TwiDish is a terrible ship!
So to kick off the new month, I’ve decided to start a Ask FlutterDash blog! In fact, I’ll probably just delete all the posts here, and start over with some lovely FlutterDash shipping.
I’m sure this may be a little difficult for some people to get used to, but it’s just what I’ve decided to do. I hope everyone will understand!
Awwww but TwiDish is cute! Look here
(This pic actually gets bonus points from me from seemingly depicting Twilight as a mom to Spike ^^)
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its-homerj-deactivated20140626 asked: For the update you're going to post on Tuesday, is it going to be related to an upcoming season 4 episode? If so, how are you going to do it if the next one doesn't air until next Saturday?
Actually has nothing to do with the next episode. It’s just a coincidence that the next episode happens to also feature Twilight & Rainbow Dash.
Hm, I think this was an overall good episode. Just seems just a little above the average but also isn’t as entertaining as most of the other episodes of the Season.
It’s probably the better of the two Flim Flam episodes. It’s overall better then Somepony to Watching Over Me, and while there were a few memorable jokes (Lyra the Judge) it wasn’t as humor full as Josh Haber’s previous episodes.
Though really thinking about it. It is a pretty solid Applejack episode overall. As this is a pretty good lesson. And Applejack isn’t even taken too much out of the spotlight.
I just don’t really have a lot to say other then it’s good AJ Episode, it’s not quite as entertaining as most Season 4 episodes have been but that also kinda means it harks back to some of the normal episodes of Season 1 & 2 and there is some charm about that. Other then this being a key episode this episode just didn’t seem quite like Season 4’s style. Though once again I’m not saying that’s a bad thing. It only seems a tad awkward where even the most seemingly normal episodes of Season 4 has something crazy to them like the previous AJ episode where it started out as an Overprotective sister episode, then suddenly BAM a Chimera threaten’s Applebloom’s life.
But perhaps it’s more fitting for a more simple pony of Applejack to have a more simpler way of getting her key then others so in some ways it still fits. But I just can’t promise this episode will what I consider one of the top episodes of Season 4. Though Season 4 has been so good being out of the Top 10 episodes isn’t even that bad.
Next one should hopefully be a fun one though. Rainbow Dash & Twilight, hmm… I have something cooked up between them coming this Tuesday ;)